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Fwd: [bangla-vision] FW: [MuslimIntelligencer] FW: Support the Seattle Israeli Crimes Bus Ads: Contact the Executive Office King County Dow Constantine



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From: MuslimIntelligencer@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MuslimIntelligencer@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex James
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Subject: [MuslimIntelligencer] FW: Support the Seattle Israeli Crimes Bus Ads: Contact the Executive Office King County Dow Constantine

 

 

 

From: Alex James
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 1:12 PM
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Subject: Support the Seattle Israeli Crimes Bus Ads: Contact the Executive Office King County Dow Constantine

 

Dear Executive / Dow Constantine

 

We urge you to support the truth and proceed with the bus ads exposing Israeli war crimes. Israelis have nearly wiped Palestine off-the-map, i.e. its it's a genocide funded by over $1.6 Trillion since the 1970s as reported by the Christian Science Monitor http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html. Until Americans are told the truth http://IfAmericansKnew.org/, the AIPAC owned Congress will keep sending money to the genocidal Israelis while Americans keep going unemployed and foreclosed upon.

 

Regards

 

 

From: Barbra

Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 11:26 PM
Subject: Support the Seattle Israeli Crimes Bus Ads: Contact the Executive Office King County Dow Constantine

 

 

If you want the ad's to run on the buses, please email Dow Constantine and let him know.

 

http://www.kingcounty.gov/exec/constantine/contact.aspx

 

 

VIDEO: GAZA: Israel murdered 1400 children - Read from the Goldstone Report

Israel's Dec 27 2009 Massacre of Gaza: 1400 Murdered half of them children, 5400 crippled for life

 

If you can watch these videos and not feel sick...you are without conscience.


Subject: FILMMAKER KEN LOACH, WRITER ARUNDHATI ROY AND NOBEL LAUREATE MAIREAD MAGUIRE - Read from the Goldstone Report

Goldstone Facts-Chapter 10, Indiscriminate Attacks by Israeli Armed Forces in Gaza

 

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2010/12/filmmaker-ken-loach-writer-arundhati-roy-and-nobel-laureate-mairead-maguire-%e2%80%94-read-from-the-goldstone-report/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fwd: [bangla-vision] FW: [MuslimIntelligencer] Instructor Airshow Pilot Questions Official 9/11 Scenario; Full Film - 9/11: World Trade Center Attack, Embedded and Streaming here!



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From: MuslimIntelligencer@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MuslimIntelligencer@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex James
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Subject: [MuslimIntelligencer] Instructor Airshow Pilot Questions Official 9/11 Scenario; Full Film - 9/11: World Trade Center Attack, Embedded and Streaming here!

 

 

Also check http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=19732  The long awaited release from Pilots For 9/11 Truth analyzing the events which took place in New York City on the morning of the 11th of September 2001. Analysis includes Black Box Recovery, Radar and Speed data analysis, Aircraft Control, and "Hijacker" Pilot Skill. Interviews with 757/767 Captains from United and American Airlines.


This is the full film but keep in mind this online preview is compressed to almost 1/3rd of original quality in order to fit on the Vimeo site. To order the high quality version, please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org/store.

 

9/11: WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK - Director's Cut also now available. Includes the FULL interviews with 757/767 Capts from United and American Airlines. Click here to order your copy today.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/wtca_dc


Thank you for your support!

 

From: smacko9@comcast.net [mailto:smacko9@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:57 AM
To: WhoDid911@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Instructor / Airshow Pilot Questions 9/11 Scenario

 

video:

Instructor / Airshow Pilot Questions 911 Scenario

( Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum )

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20907

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iToxQVq-Lg&feature=player_embedded

 

My oldest childhood friend died aboard one of the hijacked planes on September 11

I believed in Gen. Colin Powell.
I believed in the existence of WMD, and supported the invasion of Iraq.
My respect is boundless for the men and women who put themselves in harm's way there and in Afghanistan.

But I also believe in evidence. When rational people ask reasonable questions of their governments, answers are due. That is the deal in a Democracy.

Attached is my small contribution (video below) which asks just one of those questions, just one.

If a piece of the puzzle is manifestly out of place, the rest cannot be right.

-- Adam "Dewpoint" Shaw

 

Why this must be reiterated over and over... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Beginning 8:13 into the video there's quite a confusion about the airplanes speed estimations.

The 420kt by "UA175" is the lowest estimate I've ever seen.

The NTSB estimated "UA175" final descent speed in its study to 510-520 kts (587-598 mph) and the impact speed to 510 kts GS already on February 7 2002!

If we add the obvious counterwind the TAS then would be something like ~520 kts TAS.
This agrees quite exactly with the estimate made later by FEMA and with the 3D simulation based on the known videos.

In my opinion there is no controversy about the "UA175" ~510-520 kts speed value (although the controversy there indeed is - it is really way above the Vne) and the other estimates ( i.e. NIST - 542 mph/471 knots ±24 mph/21 knots, or even the MIT's 503 mph/437 knots) are not plausible and are clearly too low.

So why 420 knots iimpact speed for "UA175" in this 2010 video ?? Confusion with the "AA11" speed?

Looks like, because at 8:16 into the video there is "AA11" estimated speed "440 knots".

The NTSB in the same linked report from February 7 2002 as above estimated the "AA11" impact speed to 430 kts GS. If we subtract the wind, we end with ~420 knots TAS. This estimate agrees with the simulation. (there is the NIST estimation 443 ±30 mph/385 ±26 kts which again clearly is a bit too low).

For the "AA77" the speed shown in the video at 8:58 is "460 knots=530 Mph=850 Kmh". And the first source cited is "NTSB".

NTSB itself released the "NOC" simulation video purportedly based on FDR where the last speed of the aircraft is 462 knots (at full throtle, descending and accelerating, so it would be possible to assume the final impact speed was >462 knots - as estimated by Rob: 475 knots/546 mph) - if indeed there was an impact at all...

 

Quote: «The 420kt by "UA175" is the lowest estimate I've ever seen.»

Adam Shaw, in his video, includes an excerpt from a video made by Italian Massimo Mazzucco "12 Questions To The Supporters Of The official version ", in which Massimo reports this speed estimation certainly too low for flight 175. Being French, I know the French version of the Massimo Mazzucco video.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xasydx_11...-aux-defen_news

13 minutes after the start of this video there is (in English) a simulation of high speed flight at sea level of a Boeing 747. The aircraft becomes uncontrollable at a speed of 320 knots.

 

Great Information.. as usual.

There is only one way to solve this puzzle. we need Popular Mechanic magazine and all the rest of the 911 debunkers to rent a 757 or 767 and attempt the same flight paths of the 911 jets.
The same speeds at the same altitudes.

Maybe we the people in the 911 truth movement could raise the funds to rent a 757.

We might attract some public interest just by suggesting the re-enactment of the flights.
No Airline would rent out one of thier jets for such a dangerous stunt.
No Insurance company would cover the jet used in such a dangerous stunt.

After watching the video posted on this site, and hearing real pilots claim the flights were near impossible, would any of the debunkers still board the test flight jet.??


 

Yeah, its possible that video was shot and edited before Adam knew the reported speeds. He knows them now, which further confirms his original thoughts that it is impossible for an aircraft to fly at more than 150 knots over its Vmo, and remain controllable, stable and/or hold together.

(IMG:http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/767_V-G_Diagram_Illustrated_Guide_To_Aerodynamics.jpg)


For a more comprehensive and detailed analysis, please view "9/11: World Trade Center Attack" - Full Film

 

Good video. The more professional/experienced opinion the better. The more videos the better when sticking to real problems with the official presentation. Good all around touching on most of the questions.

Everyone can measure for themselves the speed of the second plane when it hit the second tower by watching the various videos and pausing with their remote and clicking it forward with the remote, frame by frame and count the frames from tip to tail as it enters the building, and knowing it is 30 frames per second video and knowing the length of the plane, deduce the speed of the plane. There's more than one video and they are consistent. Its direct straight measurement of the plane versus the immovable object at the time it impacted it from multiple video angles. There is some slight room for error as the tail enters between frames.
Counting the frames and doing the calculation gives me the impression of about 435 knots at impact using the international air mile as being a "knot".
I hear a lot about ground effects, but haven't yet been fully statisfied with explanation and evidence. I do wonder about the evenly distributed grass laying by the taxi, why it is not pushed up against the road divider, and why the tops of the light poles weren't sucked along with the plane that hit the Pentagon, one even photographed laying underneath the bottom section of the same pole.

 

Yeah, I would also recommend to watch the 9/11: World Trade Center Attack - for those who don't understand from the above graph at the first glance there is a huge elefant in the room.

I'm not an aviation engineer, yet the evidence looks to me understandable and overwhelming - a commercial jet can hardly fly 510-520 kts at sea level and even bank and turn. (I almost don't wonder some buy into the NPT terrories trying to escape the facts about the speed and the implications, so they imagine holograms and UFO and like.) But who I'm, just a psychology of terrorism spec from former soviet bloc, who would listen, one feels quite feckless, that's why I'm glad the P4T does the excellent job, a bit of hope remains...

What looks quite scary to me is that NTSB knows this facts about the speed since very early after 9/11, much earlier than I've learnt about, and I'm quite sure they also know very well what does it mean - they're experienced in aviation investigation, aren't they. Can't they much do about it just because the FBI took over the investigation? Apropos, have anybody seen any major outcome of the FBI 9/11 investigation? Me never. Not even any positive identification of the 4 airplanes, which one should begin with. Nothing. Zero. Not one of the serials of the miriads of time tracked parts, not even the FDR's serial... Just coverup. (oh yes, they purportedly identified the bogeyman and 19 suicide hijackers the same day and some of them then showed alive, nobody ever cared to remove them from the list and the bogeyman never appeared as wanted for 9/11...) So the idea the planes were RC, not the ones we were told, and the whole 9/11 was a military black-op seems to me not far-fetched. The answer to the cui bono looks to me overwhelming too. But who would investigate, prosecute? The fishes never empty their own pond. One hardly finds a federal agency which since then is not involved in some scandalous or criminal activity. US if continuing like this will soon make the Orwell look naive. The whole federal government more and more looks like a rogue entity which completely went out of control. Like many regimes aspiring to world dominance before. Even if it would be possible, can one imagine the scale of a tribunal which would judge about such a vast conspiracy. WTC93, OKC, embassies, USS Cole, 9/11, Patriot Act, war in Afghanistan, Gitmo, war in Iraq, 11/3, 7/7, Af-Pak war, controlled demolition of the economy, and many many more...just more or less important moves of the same game. Who could stop it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

You want a really useful Federal Emergency Management camp? Fence the Washington D.C., Arlington and Wall St. around and bring there all brigs. I'm sure the US will do better.

... the Congress aprooved the largest military budget in history and the third carrier reportingly heads to Korea and WTF China prepares for war ...

 

Thanks, Rob for a credible video with rational, reasonable, and knowlegeable subjects. It is still unbelievable that there are sooooo many people in the United States who do NOT know, believe or even think the government's story of 911 is false. It is even more unbelievable how many in the government DO KNOW and are unwilling to stand up! Certainly a sign of the times and the complete control of the mainstream media by the government. In the sixties you had 80% of the people who didn't believe the governments story about the JFK assassination and now those figures are about reversed for those who believe 911 was an INSIDE JOB. Joseph Goebbels would be astonsished at the progress made in controlling the propaganda machine especially in the age of the internet! Just further proof the American people don't read as was proclaimed by insiders on the Warren Commission when some voiced concern about the "inconsistencies" within that report. Happy New Year! HOPE is NOT a plan of action!

 

 

Mr. Shaw,

Thank you so much for your post. I was like you and believed the first reports but when the towers fell, it raised questions in my mind.

Mr. Rob, Thanks so much for reminding us all the time about false flag operations. It is just like what the news did on 911. The more we hear, the more we see the truth. People are starting to question the official story and that is a great thing. It raised questions for me from day one, about the collapse of the towers. Don't even bring building 7 into play, I know beyond a shadow it was rigged! The towers were designed to withstand a hit from a 707. I have worked in the airline industry as a ground person. It couldn't have happened the way they told us. I was a fueler, baggage handler, aircraft cleaner. Aircraft fire couldn't have brought down the towers.

Today, I'm a telecommunications technician and a person with an electronics engineering degree. I was a Marine and worked with the avionics on the Boeing FA-18 Hornet. I never believed that the people claimed to be terrorists could even program a GPS much less any computer inside a 757/767.

God bless you all, and stay safe. Please watch your's and each other's backs!!

Eric

 

Correct me if I am wrong please.

All the data received by the ATC control system aside from radar returns is broadcast via radio.

Radar returns can likewise be broadcast such as RACONS which in marine navigation send a blip out supposedly when they received in a radar signal, so radar also is a radio signal.

Further, at some point in a radar receiver the radio signals are converted into line voltage which appears as data on dispay screens and is recorded on drives or tapes or some medium.

If the above is basically true (I am not a EE)... then is it not possible to insert data into the system at various points?

Would it not be possible to simulate an actual plane by simply transmitting data from a "radio transceiver" which was pre programmed from a flight simulator?

And or couldn't this data be inserted via some back door into the ATC system. I can't imagine there are not "ports" to insert data for "alignment" and turning of the equipment.

Therefore if any of the above (or all) is basically factual, then it would be possible to create any "environment" of ATC "screens".

Further, even conversations with the cockpit could be likewise staged and there would be no way of know where the transmissions were coming from. The ATC might think he (or she) was speaking with a cockpit and they were conversing with a radio shack down the street in some undisclosed location.

Further, any black box which may be recovered may likewise be a substitute place in whatever aircraft crashed... with data created in a simulator. If each Box has a unique serial number it could even be removed from the plane which we were told was hijacked... programmed and placed into the one which was used to crash into the buildings on 9/11... or perhaps connected so SOME flight transducers and not others to use the actual data of the crashing plane...

Some might say this is overly complex. It doesn't seem so if one has a year to create these fakes.

There appears to be a lot of "illusion" associated with 9/11. We see something... but it happens rather quickly... we are told what we saw which seems to make sense. But we are denied the careful examination after the fact to actually determine what we saw... or heard.

Those phone calls made from the aircraft have this similar aspect. On the face they seemed compelling. But on further thought we learn that it was impossible that these calls took place.

The same goes for the Pentagon and Shanksville plane crashes. What were told and saw does not seem to make sense.... the evidence to support the official account stretches credulity.

The more we look closely at 9/11 the more it looks like a magic show - an illusion. Not the entire event for sure... stuff definably happened. But we don't know EXACTLY what it was or how it happened.

And the government has denied the people the ability to look at the evidence. Trust us they say and if you don't... you're a nut case.

On this:

"If the above is basically true (I am not a EE)... then is it not possible to insert data into the system at various points?

I'm not an EE either, but I 'used' to calculate the flight plans for one of the airlines involved. Specifically, overwater flight plans that do not operate in a radar environment. So you're right about the insertion of data. The contacts that an over-water flight makes with the various centers as they cross say, the Atlantic, are built into the flight plan that is uploaded to the Flight Deck Computer, prior to departure. That upload of course takes place from a central location, regardless of the physical location of the aircraft. In effect, the airplane itself is programmed to send intermittent information to the Centers that track over water flights. These SAME aircraft generally have a domestic portion to them as well, (ie AA flight 11 was at the time an Intercontinental/Domestic flight that continued on to Europe or the reverse) and I'm only adding that for the persons who may believe this to be irrelevant since these flights were not operating in a NON-radar environment at the time of the incidents.

Having said that, I suspect that all of the aircraft involved were probably equipped for over-water flights, and so this is of course a possibility, IF we believe that those were the aircraft that actually hit the WTC as well as the Pentagon and Shanksville. I personally cannot believe that, just because we know that the Northeast Corridor didn't all of a sudden turn into the Bermuda Triangle on Sept, 11, 2001, and manage to DISAPPEAR 4 commercial transport airliners. It just didn't happen. 767's do not simply VANISH without leaving a trace of debris, even if it's at the bottom of the Ocean.

Yet we are expected to believe that they DID. I have never seen any signs of an aircraft, (not even a wing light), at any of the sites. At the Pentagon, all we see is a hole. There are NO signs of any emergency response such as would be seen IMMEDIATELY after any incident, as we saw with AA flt 191 in Chicago back in 1978, or DL flt 191 (no error - same flight number, different carrier) back in the early 80's at DFW. Airplanes just don't do that, not even if they break up due to structural damage as the Egypt Air flight did. Even THEN, investigators could immediately find a debris pool.

The only people I saw in the images from the Pentagon attack were the ones being carried out by the likes of Rumsfeld and others, (have you ever seen that photo of him carrying someone on a stretcher?) and those were ONLY of the people actually in the Pentagon at the time of the attack. No passengers, no baggage, no anything from the aircraft itself. How can that be? Same thing at Shanksville...a little tiny depression in the ground nothing else.

 

OK, I think I get it now. The dynamic pressure is the same as the aircraft going supersonic at higher altitudes, even though it is subsonic.

Could a militrized version of the 767 go that fast on the deck (with say bigger engines and beefed up structure)?

 

Looks like Japan may have paid for developing just such a critter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-767

[edit] From the above website it looks like these had the standard 767 General Electric CF6 engines. I wonder if those engine parts found at the WTC ever been (for sure) identified?

BTW, a quick Google search seems to indicate that the jury may still be out on that question

 

You are absolutely right. This is a common pattern throughout the official story. There are many things that are loosely or vaguely or inadequately explained and then papered over by giving the public a simple, easily repeated slogan or theme to fill the gaps. Example - "Hot Jet Fuel Fires".

But such things are easily attacked and discredited. Just find one thing that can be easily proven to be false or incorrect and the rest of the phony edifice must fall.

Rob recognizes all of this. The video is great because it focuses on one specific aspect of aerodynamics to take one aspect of the OCT - that they planes were normal commercial airliners - and show such planes would fall apart from the stresses before they hit the buildings. Thus they must be abnormal commercial airliners that were beefed up structurally and/or souped up performance wise and/or fitted with a "remotely guided pilot assistance system". Having such a sharp focus keeps things simple.

Rob is concerned about the explanation being to technical compared to the government's simple slogans. He's right to be concerned. However, I think his presentation is simple and easy for anyone to understood once they grasp three things (1) the scientific fact that air is densest at sea level and gets significantly less dense at the altitudes where planes spend most of their flying time; (2) planes are designed and constructed as lightly as possible to maximize their flight efficiency while still being safe and (3) denser air and higher speed significantly increases the structural stress on a plane. Most people already know these three things separately but never have any reason to tie them all together into one train of thought, and with 911 providing a reason, all they need to connect them now is Rob's good guidance in the video.

So Rob is fighting the government's false simplicity with the simplest possible explanation, with the added advantage that what he says is both sensible and true. Not only that, everyone likes to think they are smart, so Rob's explanation should be appealing to people. It's not too complicated and at the same time sophisticated enough to make people feel smart because they understand it. The downside might be that some people will think that they were real dumb asses for not having already seen it and instead accepting the OCT explanation.

 

Please watch the video, it is addressed thoroughly. Those who make the excuse for the extremely excessive groundspeed, must also posit the theory there was a 85-90 knot wind pushing United 175 from the south.

Hint: The winds were light from the Northwest. Based on heading, groundspeed was virtually the same as its True Airspeed. If anything, True Airspeed was more than the 510 knot groundspeed making the govt story that much more implausible for a stock 767 to have completed such an approach intact.

Gotta love these armatures coming in here crying "Groundspeed!". Little do they know they need Hurricane force winds to hold onto their theory.

 

I am curious about the air speeds or ground speed of the planes which hit the Twins. Where are these speeds derived from? Personally I don't trust any data on a ATC screen.

Therefore to determine to speed you would have to do some sort of analysis of the video footage.

Maybe they were only going a few hundred knots.

Tell us about how we know the speeds of the planes.

We tell you all about it in the above film. Perhaps click play. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

But if you need an official document, click here.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/p4t/Radar_Dat...AA11,_UA175.pdf

 

Rob,

I've seen the excellent film. And I understand the discussion about the limits of those air frames to move through the atmosphere at various elevations at various speeds. Likewise one can do the same calculations for hulls though water, flat water, waves and so forth.

However, my questions were:

Who supplied the air speeds/ground speeds of those planes?

Were the air speeds/ground speeds of those planes taken from RADES or ATC supplied information?

Has anyone calculated the air speeds /ground speed from the videos of the planes hitting the towers?

In general I find that so much of the information about 9/11 was supplied (without question or independent data) byu official sources. It is essentially a fiction, a myth... a 9/11 narrative and very little is fact based.

When you watch a "docu-drama" on TV you believe it to be a real depiction... even any movie... We give "the benefit of doubt" to the producers and story tellers.

However, in a court of law, or a laboratory, this sort of depiction has no validity whatsoever.

9/11 appears very much to be a "live docu drama"... with some actual events which people experienced but mixed in was all the production work... and connecting the dots into a convenient narrative for the American people.

We saw some planes hit the towers. They can't be ID'd from video. There are no identifying parts recovered. We are told they were various flights and individuals boarded those flights and were never seen again.

Yet we have ID'd their DNA, but not a single serial number of a part?

We have things like passports and bandanas recovered from the alleged hijackers?

We have no black boxes? (even though it is easy to plant them on site)

We are told that those airframes can't travel at the reported speeds... so what hit the towers? Slower planes or different planes than we were told?

There are too many odd coincidences and facts which don't add up to a coherent story... too many lies and fabrications. Yet people believe that we are being attacked and the enemy of Al Qaeda... so it all makes sense to them. Who else could do such a thing?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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U.S. EFFORTS FAIL TO CONVINCE PAKISTAN'S TOP GENERAL TO TARGET TALIBAN

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[Kayani, who as Pakistan's army chief has more direct say over the country's security strategy than its president or prime minister, has resisted personal appeals from President Obama, U.S. military commanders and senior diplomats. Recent U.S. intelligence estimates have concluded that he is unlikely to change his mind anytime soon. Despite the entreaties, officials say, Kayani doesn't trust U.S. motivations and is hedging his bets in case the American strategy for Afghanistan fails( Read more)] 
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Fwd: [PMARC] Dalits Media Watch - News Updates 30.12.10



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Dalits Media Watch

News Updates 30.12.10

Dalits denied pattas, driven out: Study - Express Buzz

http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/dalits-denied-pattas-driven-out-study/235411.html

National Action Forum for Social Justice organises seminar - The Pioneer

http://www.dailypioneer.com/307133/National-Action-Forum-for-Social-Justice-organises-seminar.html

SC/ST Commission Visits Deceased Dalit Sisters' Home - Out Look India

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Discrimination at the Puri Temple - South Asia Mail

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Left in the cold - Front Line

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Express Buzz

Dalits denied pattas, driven out: Study

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Express News Service

First Published : 30 Dec 2010 04:04:27 AM IST

CHENNAI: A study conducted by the Tamil Nadu Untouchability Eradication Front (TNUEF) has revealed that families belonging to Scheduled Castes in Chennai have been struggling for the past several decades to get pattas for their lands.

The report on the field study done in 31 localities in Chennai between September and October was released on Wednesday by TNUEF president P Sampath and general secretary K Samuelraj. Denial of patta was a primary problem faced by them, the report stated. Their demand for pattas has not yielded results despite struggling for the past half-a-century. They have been fighting for pattas in many areas, including Kumarasami Rajapuram and M S Nagar in Egmore, Korukkupet, Sikkanderpalayam, Perambur, Mettupalayam, Kolathur SRP Colony and Dharmapuram.

Under the guise of removing encroachments, the oppressed people were being driven out of their traditional residential areas. Also, the benefits of urbanisation have not reached them. There were no adequate toilet facilities forcing them to defecate in the open, the report stated. The facilities in the hostels meant for Scheduled Caste students too were appalling.

Dalits were being driven out of places where they had traditionally lived. They were being forced to live in tenements of just 120 sq ft size in new residential areas in Sholinganullur and Semmancherry, the report pointed out.

The Pioneer

National Action Forum for Social Justice organises seminar

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December 30, 2010 9:11:48 AM

PNS | DEHRADUN

To discuss on problems faced by people belonging to SC/ST and OBCs', National Action Forum for Social Justice organised a seminar in Dehradun on Wednesday. National Scheduled Caste Commission Chairman PL Puniya was the chief guest on the occasion.

While addressing the gathering, Puniya said that after the 61 years of implementation of the Constitution, the exploitation of Dalits is still continuing in various parts of country. Untouchables still exist in various states of the country including Uttar Pradesh, Harayana, Uttarakhand, Bihar, Punjab, Jharkhand, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar and others. Mid-day Meal cooked by the Dalits (Bhojan Mata) is being boycotted at various places, which can be read in newspapers and TV news channels. The execution of Central and State Government sponsored schemes including rations, scholarships, pensions, reservations; food for works and others for SC/ST is very poor in various states.

The purpose of the seminar is to create awareness among the people about their rights and how to get it. In addition to that State Government should ensure that welfare schemes are being reached to the beneficiaries. "The people belonging to SC/ST should be given reservation in private sectors also.

While talking to The Pioneer State President SP Singh said that people belonging to SC/ST are facing huge problem to get their caste certificates as they are being asked by district administer to submit a proof of ancestors caste certificates (before 50 years).

The Central and State Government should make a committee, who will review the welfare schemes run by both Governments for the welfare of the SC/ST and OBCs. He said that the poor farmers belonging to the SC/ST, especially in Haridwar districts are being exploited by the administrative officers. He demanded that the State Government should submit the reports to the commission what action was being taken against those officers who were responsible for it.

State Opposition Leader Harak Singh Rawat said that the Central and State Government welfare schemes are not reaching to the beneficiaries. He alleged that the BJP-led Government failed to provide basic rights to the people belonging to SC/ST and OBCs.

Among those present on the occasion were Hira Singh Bisht, Lal Chandra Sharma, Prabhat Dabral, Subodh Uniyal, Vinod Nautiyal, Anail Kumar Sharma, Madan Rawat, Bhupendra Kumar, Sharad Bahuguan and others.

Out Look India

SC/ST Commission Visits Deceased Dalit Sisters' Home

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Chairman of the SC/ST Commission today visited Kothiwal Nagar here to take stock of the situation after two Dalit sisters were charred to death allegedly by a mob on December 18.

P L Punia, the chairman of the Commission, talked to the victims' relatives and summoned the District Magistrate, DIG, SP (city) and Circle Officer (city), Moradabad, to appear before the Commission on January 10.

"The case of the Dalit sisters being burnt was an open case of murder, while the local administration has tried to mould the case into that of an accident or suicide," Punia told PTI.

He said in a similar case of crime against Dalits in Delhi, the Police Commissioner had summoned the Deputy Commissioner of Police and Secretary, Social Welfare, R K Srivastava, who was arrested after ignoring the summons.

On a question on the status of Dalits in India, Punia said that while the position of the Dalits is not satisfactory in any state, it is the worst in Uttar Pradesh, even though the state's Chief Minister Mayawati belongs to the Dalit community.

The Moradabad case of atrocities against Dalits is "horrible", he said, adding, it shows the status of the Dalits in the state.

Talking about the facilities available to the SC/STs, Punia alleged the funds for the benefit and uplift of SC/STs are being diverted to works like development of roads, medical colleges and even the Commonwealth Games.

Reservation was also not providing good jobs to those belonging to the backward castes, Punia said.

The Commission has started an awareness campaign to make Dalits aware of their rights, he said.

South Asia Mail

Discrimination at the Puri Temple

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By Dr. Anuradha Sharma

On 28th December, 2010 the report came to me like a bolt from the blue that Katie Leonard with her pal was detained at the temple of Puri. I have never visited the shrine of Jagannath and would not like to visit a place that categorizes people on the basis of their nationality. India has given right to its people to visit religious places. Even this is incomprehensible that the policies of a holy place inflict restrictions on the foreigners.

These pundits, who have damaged the culture of the country for centuries and left us to bemoan on the fate of reservation and a long list of dalits, are not ashamed on their part played in shaping a painful history for this country. A culture, that sings for universal peace and Vasudhaiva Kutumbkam, is seemed hollow when it's deities inside the tight security are polluted by the entry of an American student.

A Lord has polluted by the entry and He is made pure by washing again drawing the student out of the temple premises. This discriminatory history goes back when in the same temple Late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was not allowed to enter though she was an Indian. Hindus are not those who follow the Hindu religion but those who live in Hindustan. Have the authorities ever asked every Hindu before framing such biased policy for the temple.

I am not aware about the constitution of Jagannath Temple but I am proud of the cultural heritage of this country that says "Atithi Devo Bhav" (guests are God). We daily watch a few advertisements promulgating the values of "welcoming guests". Born and brought up with the culture of humanity I could never digest this discrimination based on religion. The establishment that hates humans cannot be welcomed. If it is something that prohibits entry of living souls into the temple it is not something normal. I am of the firm conviction if there is anything anti-human then it should be changed immediately.

I pray for those mentally sick priests of the temple to get well soon from their indefinable psychological complexes. God must give them insight to recognize the unfathomable beliefs of the culture of India. Philosophers have said that Hiduism is not a religion it is a way of life. Common souls like me only can pity those who do not know the depth of religion and pose themselves as the pillars of the religion.

Last month when I visited Canada I had very good experiences. The people I met there took extra care so that I may not get a bitter experience or bring black image of their country back home. I feel we fail in doing the same.

(Anuradha Sharma is a lecturer at a College, in India and writes poetry in English and Hindi both. Her poems and research papers have appeared in many journals, anthologies and news papers in India and abroad. Lately she has completed her Research Project funded by UGC and has been selected for Associateship by IIAS, Shimla. Bharat Times honored her by Woman of the Year Award. She has received honorary degree Doctor of Humanity by an Institution in Florida. She is also nominated for an international Who's Who. )

Front Line

Left in the cold

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T.K. RAJALAKSHMI

A convention of Muslim organisations calls for speedy implementation of the Ranganath Mishra and Sachar reports.

"I AM a domestic worker and have four children, the youngest is six months old. My husband is a rickshaw-puller, he remains ill most of the time and so I have to work. My eldest daughter is six years old – she looks after the other children when I am gone. We have no ration card or any other proof of identity – I cannot get my daughter admitted to school as they demand proof of birth and identity. I have neither. They ask money for making a ration card or giving admissions. I live on rent and do not know when my hutment will get demolished. I have worked in many places in Delhi and the National Capital Region ever since I remember."

These are the words of Rukhsana, 30, a Muslim and a migrant. She has not heard either of the Ranganath Mishra Commission or the Sachar Committee report.

In the tenure of the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government, the years 2006 and 2007 assume special importance as two important reports pertaining to minorities, particularly Muslims, were prepared by two commissions with the intent of framing remedial policies for the uplift of the indigent sections among them.

On December 4, the National Convention for Muslim Rights, held by leading Muslim organisations, along with representatives of political parties in the capital, urged the Union government to implement without further delay the comprehensive recommendations made by the two commissions.

The organisations included the Kolkata-based Democratic Forum for National Integration, the Delhi-based Muslim Intelligentsia Forum and the Hyderabad-based Awaaz . The delegates, comprising academics and experts, political party representatives and State government functionaries, concluded unanimously that the Union government had developed cold feet on the recommendations of the two commissions. Among the speakers were K. Rahman Khan, Deputy Chairman, Rajya Sabha; Syeda Saiyidain Hameed, Member, Planning Commission; Maulana Anisur Rahman Qasmi, Member, All India Muslim Personal Law Board; Zahid Ali Khan, editor of Hyderabad-based Siasat; and Anwar Pasha, Associate Professor at the Centre for Indian Languages, Jawaharlal Nehru University.

The National Commission for Religious and Linguistic Minorities, headed by Justice Ranganath Mishra, was notified on October 29, 2004. The first UPA government, backed by the Left parties, had made a commitment in its Common Minimum Programme "to establishing a National Commission to see how best the welfare of socially and economically backward sections among religious and linguistic minorities, including reservation in education and employment, is enhanced".

The commission was to suggest criteria for identifying socially and economically backward sections among religious and linguistic minorities and recommend measures for the welfare of these sections, including measures such as reservation in education and government employment, and suggest constitutional, legal and administrative modalities for the implementation of the recommendations. It submitted its report on March 10, 2007, and it was tabled two years later, in December 2009. The irony is that the report was tabled without an action-taken report, which made it unclear whether the recommendations had been accepted or not by the Union government.

"We wrote not once but four times asking for a debate on the Ranganath Mishra Commission recommendations. I raised this at every session of the Rajya Sabha," said Ali Anwar Ansari, a Rajya Sabha member from the Janata Dal (United). He pointed out that it was on the instructions of the Supreme Court that the terms of reference were expanded to include the Dalits among Muslims.

"Both the commissions had concluded that the Muslim community was not a monolith and homogenous one. The Sachar Committee used terms like Ashraf, Ajlal and Ajmal from the Arabic to show that the community was socially stratified," he said. Ansari lauded the West Bengal government's decision to give 10 per cent reservation for Muslims in government jobs. Nearly 85 per cent of the Muslim population in the State was covered under reservation, explained delegates from the ruling Left Front in West Bengal. In Andhra Pradesh, where a similar step was undertaken, the Supreme Court, in an interim order, upheld the validity of 4 per cent reservation to backward members of the Muslim community.

The Ranganath Mishra Commission said: "Since the minorities – especially the Muslims – are very much under-represented, and sometimes wholly unrepresented, in government employment, we recommend that they should be regarded as backward in this respect within the meaning of that term as used in Article 16 (4) of the Constitution." The commission recommended 15 per cent reservation for backward minorities in education and jobs, with 10 per cent earmarked for Muslims (as they constituted 73 per cent in the total minority population in the country) and 5 per cent for other minorities.

Delegates at the conference demanded the speedy implementation of the commission's recommendation of 10 per cent reservation for socially and educationally backward Muslims and the extension of the benefits of reservation available to the Scheduled Castes among Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists to their counterparts among Muslims and Christians. In a resolution, the delegates demanded that any additional allocation should be made from the open quota without disturbing the present quota fixed for Other Backward Classes and the S.Cs. If necessary, the government should initiate the process for a constitutional amendment to ensure that over 50 per cent reservation can be provided, they said.

Shocking revelations

The Sachar Committee, a high-level committee on the social, economic and educational status of the Muslim community in India, was constituted in March 2005. It came up with shocking revelations about the low status of Muslims, who had slipped behind the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes in terms of socio-economic and educational indicators. Delegates at the convention said that a complete review of the implementation of the committee's proposals and a debate in Parliament were needed. They asked why the government had ignored the widespread demand, which was also made by the National Minorities Commission, for a 15 per cent budgetary sub-plan for the development of the Muslim community. They pointed out that the government had not even accepted the M.A.A. Fatmi Committee's recommendations. (Fatmi, who was a Minister of State in the Human Resource Development Ministry, headed a high-powered committee that prepared an action plan.)

The Sachar Committee's report was tabled in the Lok Sabha on November 30, 2006. Nine months later, on August 30, 2007, "follow-up Action on the recommendations of the Sachar Committee" was placed in Parliament, but no discussion was held despite a demand from political parties.

Speakers at the conference observed that the follow-up action did not contain any new policies or mention time-bound targets or a clear-cut financial allocation. What was reiterated and emphasised was the Prime Minister's 15-point programme for the welfare of minorities, which pre-dated the Sachar Committee's recommendations. And the situation seemed to have improved only marginally in some sectors. The government had set up a three-year timeline in 2007 for ensuring 15 per cent priority-sector lending by banks to members of the minority communities; by 2010, only 13.77 per cent lending was achieved.

Similarly, 90 districts with a concentration of minority communities were identified for the implementation of a Multi-Sectoral Development Programme for Minorities (MSDP). Political parties, including the Left parties, had demanded that blocks be identified as units for the implementation of the programme instead of entire districts. In any event, these 90 districts, selected under the "targeted" policy, covered only 35 per cent of the Muslim population. The allocation, too, was meagre. The Eleventh Plan had envisaged an allocation of Rs.30.5 crore for each district over five years for the development of the minorities; of this, only Rs.1,440.29 crore was released for 89 districts until November 30, 2010, which came to slightly over Rs.16 crore a district, almost half of what was allocated by the Plan.

The scheme for providing quality education in madrasas was allocated Rs.325 crore under the Eleventh Plan, but an outlay of only Rs.95 crore was made over a period of three years. The delegates from West Bengal pointed out that the State's budget provision for madrasa education for a single year, 2009-10, was Rs.526 crore, surpassing the Plan period's total allocation for five years. Even the total expenditure of Rs.7,000 crore on all Central and Centrally sponsored schemes for the minorities over five years constituted a minuscule 0.32 per cent of the total outlay for the Eleventh Plan. And less than half of what was allocated had been spent in the first three years of the Plan period.

P.S. Krishnan, former Member Secretary of the National Commission for Backward Classes, said that in Hutton's (J.H. Hutton's census of 1931) Census report, only the untouchables among Hindus were included as such; the untouchables in other communities were not considered. He recommended that a portion of the Plan should go to the minorities with specific allocations to Dalits and backward Muslims. The Minister of State for Minority Development and Madrasa Education in West Bengal, Abdus Sattar, said that the Union government refused to consider a sub-plan for minorities despite the Sachar Committee placing Muslims below the S.Cs and the S.Ts in some indicators.

The Chairman of the West Bengal Minorities Development Finance Commission, Mohammad Salim, made a fervent plea for a discussion in Parliament on the Sachar Committee recommendations. "Conditions were created so that no discussion takes place. The appeasement theory has been laid bare by the findings of the report," he added. Salim also pointed out that the MSDP was a brainchild of the United Front government, and the Left parties had insisted that the block should be the unit of implementation for it to be effective. The demand, made more than a decade ago, was still valid, he said.

"The Sachar report is a diagnostic one; the Ranganath Mishra report is the operative part," he said, adding that the government needed to act on both with equal urgency.

Focussing on the issue of education for Muslims, M.A.A. Fatmi said that he was "disturbed" that the recommendations of his committee pertaining to education were not even considered. The recommendations had addressed all areas including adult literacy and higher education.

"We said that wherever there was a population of 250, a school should be opened; we recommended that Kendriya Vidyalayas be opened in Muslim majority areas and that an Urdu university be started. Had that happened, this would have helped lots of Muslim children," he said.


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